750-101 Suspension Springs Table of Contents
1 Glossary ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….1 2 General Notes ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….3 3 Spacers – “As Needed”? …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….4 4 Front Springs……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………5 5 Front Aluminum Spacers ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………7 6 Front Rubber (& Steel) Pad…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………9 7 Rear Springs…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..11 8 Shock Cover / Spacer……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….13 10 Rear Aluminum Spacers……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………14 11 Rear Rubber (& Steel) Pad ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..16
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1 Glossary
Dots: #-X + #-X | where # = quantity of dots of stated color, | ||
where X = B(blue), LtB(light blue), G(green), R(red), Y(yellow), W(white) | |||
Car Weight: dry, with tools and jack | |||
Flexibility Rating: means stiffer spring | Alfa Owner, April 1962 had this comment by Ign. Greco, ARI; “The lower the “flexibility index number” (in parts Catalog) the stiffer the spring. “ | ||
Wire: diameter of wire in millimeters | |||
OD: | outside diameter of spring coil in millimeters. | ||
Total Coils | Count every 360 degrees as whole number + fraction if any (180o= ½ coil; 90o= ¼ coil etc.) | ||
Active Coils: | The first active coil begins at the point where the wire pitch departs from the collapsed coil end. This is the zero point for counting active coils. Each full revolution of the wire counts as one active coil. |
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Coil Count by End Type: | OPEN END: the coils are consistent with no pitch change through the end of the spring Also called PLAIN ENDS | Total: 6 Active: 6 Active = Total | |
CLOSED ENDS, NOT GROUND: the end coils’ pitch is reduced so the end coils touch Also called SQUARED ENDS | Total: 7 Active: 5 Active = Total-2 | ||
OPEN & GROUND: last coil ground ‘flat’ in appearance and has a less parallel end Also called SQUARED & GROUND | Total: 6 Active: 6 Active = Total | ||
CLOSED & GROUND: last coil not ‘flat’ in appearance and has a less parallel end Also called PLAIN & GROUND This is what is found on ourGiuliettas. | Total: 7 3/4 Active: 5 3/4 Active = Total-2 |
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2 General Notes
Publications sources for part numbers by vehicle application:
∙ #776 (11/1961) 750/101 parts
∙ #1016 (10/1964) 101-1600 parts
∙ #1150 (3/1966) 101-1600 Spider Veloce parts
Publication sources for “free length”, “test load”, and “loaded length”:
∙ #637 (9/1958) “Giulietta Cars Shop Manual”, this manual lists all “free length” as “=/- 5 mm”; but I do not list that in chart.
∙ #854 (no date) Enclosure to shop manual (updates for 101 model)
∙ #1159 (no date) Giulia Spider Veloce, Giulia SS technical characteristics
∙ #850 9/1962) Giulia 1600 cars / t.i. Spider Sprint / Technical characteristics
Outside diameter of springs:
∙ All front springs have the same
∙ Rear had two diameters. Based on footnote found in publication #776, TAV 87 and TAV 88 the following was deduced:
∙ 105 mm OD springs Spider up to 1495.03250, Spider Veloce up to 1495.08000, Sprint up to 1493.02800;
∙ 115 mm after above numbers. (Confirmed by publication #1016 listing only 115 mm for 101-1600)
∙ 115 mm was used from the beginning for all t.i., SS, and SZ; based on listing for rubber shock gasket/buffer 1365.48.431and bottom buffer 1365.489.424.
Internet spring rate calculator:
∙ Note formula uses USA pounds and inches
∙ Torsional modulus for steel (pounds/inch2): 11,250,000
∙ Coil spring constant: 8
∙ Mean Coil Diameter: Outer Diameter – Wire Diameter
∙ “Spring Rate” formula: “Torsional Modulus” X “Wire Diameter4” / “Coil Spring Constant” X “Active Coils” X “Mean Coil Diameter3” (take note of “power” notation on wire diameter and mean coil diameter
∙ Another way to write the formula assuming wire size .625”, mean coil diameter 5.00”, active coils 10
11,250,000 x .625 x .625 x .625 x .625 = 171,661,370 = Spring Rate of 171.66 lbs. per inch
8 x 10 x 5.0 x 5.0 x 5.0 10,000
Sufficient data was only available to calculate a couple “Spring Rates”, but those do support Ign. Greco, ARI, 1962 statement: “The lower the ‘flexibility index number’ the stiffer the spring. “
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750-101 Suspension Springs Spacers – “As Needed”? Page 4
3 Spacers – “As Needed”?
The parts manuals indicate specific aluminum spacers for specific springs on specific car models. Is this true?
On 750-101 Transition Sprint Veloce (1493*E*06920) that appeared to be little altered during its life with two prior owners, it had all the specified springs (color dots), pads, and spacers; except for the specified spacers on top of the front springs.
Maybe, at least for Sprint Veloce, the answer may be: “install as needed”. Greig Smith, Sprint expert in S. Africa, has spent considerable effort researching this issue. He once commented: “Possibly at the end of the assembly line, a Bertone working held a measuring stick up to each car and if the gap at each wheel arch was not correct, spacers were added as needed.” This concept appears to fit several unmolested Sprints.
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Part# | Dots | Application | Car Dry Weight (kg) | Specifications | Source | |||||||
Coils Total Active | Wire | OD (mm) | Free Length (mm) | Test Load (kg) | Load Length (mm) | Flex Rating | Spring Rate (lb/inch2) |
4 Front Springs
Note: in several instances parts manual #776 provides two alternative color dots schemes for one part number. This was possibly due to using two suppliers.
1365.45.113 | 2W+1G 2R+1G | 750 | Berlina up to 1488.1000 | 915 | 389 | 485-515 | 267 | 95 | 637 | ||||
1365.45.232 | 1W+Y 1R+1Y | 750 | Berlina, t.i. (Footnote 1) | 915 920 | 396 | 485-515 | 274 | 95 | 637 | ||||
101.00.21.505.00 | 1LtB+1W 1LtB+1R | 101-1300 ?101-1600 | Berlina, t.i. (Footnote 2) | 915 920 | 405 | 521-553 | 274 | 95 | 854 | ||||
1365.45.078 | 1W+1R | 750 | Sprint up to 1493.02800 | 880 | 410 | 505-540 | 267 | 106 | 637 | ||||
1365.45.172 (repeated below) | 1W+2G 1R+2G | 750 101-1300 101-1600 | Sprint after 1493.02801 | 905 | 394 | 490-520 | 267 | 97.8 | 637 854 850 | ||||
1365.45.152 | 5W | 750 | Sprint Veloce (on request) | 895 | 384 | 446.2- 473.8 | 267 | 88.3 | 637 | ||||
1365.45.153 | 4W | 750 | Sprint Veloce | 895 | 371 | 446.2- 473.8 | 267 | 99 | 637 | ||||
1365.45.161 | 2W+2R 2W+1R | 750 Footnote 3101 | Sprint Veloce w/Sprint body | T: 8 3/4 A: 6 3/4 | 13.6 | 115 | 377 | 485-515 | 267 | 86 | 269.13 | 854 +example | |
101-1300 | SS | 860 | |||||||||||
SZ (Footnote 4) | 770 | ||||||||||||
???? | 1W+1G+ 1R | 101-1600 | SS | 950 | 377 | 500-515 | 267 | 1159 | |||||
1(750) Berlina 1488.1001 – 1488.24930, t.i. up to 1468.17750
2(101) Berlina, t.i. after numbers in footnote 1
3 Based on example found in 750-101 Transition Sprint Veloce 1493-E-06920, with 750 front suspension wishbones and still having visible “2 white + 1 red dots”. 4 The parts manual lists the SZ spring as 136545.153, but the Workshop Manual specifications match 1365.45.161.
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Part# | Dots | Application | Car Dry Weight (kg) | Specifications | Source | |||||||
Coils Total Active | Wire | OD (mm) | Free Length (mm) | Test Load (kg) | Load Length (mm) | Flex Rating | Spring Rate (lb/inch2) |
1365.45.112 | 3W 3R | 750 | Spider | 860 | 410 | 451-479 | 267 | 118.7 | 637 | ||||
101-1300 | Spider | 394 | 490-520 | 267 | 854 | ||||||||
1365.45.172 (duplicate from above) | 1W+2G 1R+2G | 101-1600 | Spider, Spider Veloce | 885 | T: 9 | 14 | 394 | 490-520 | 267 | 97.8 | 850 | ||
1365.45.177 | 2G | 750 101-1300 | Spider Veloce | 865 | 89 |
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750-101 Suspension Springs Front Aluminum Spacers Page 7
Placement | Specifications | ||||||||
Part# | Top | Bottom | Corresponding Spring | Application | A | B | C | Thickness | Source |
“X” indicates that it was used on both right and left side of car.
5 Front Aluminum Spacers
1365.45.237 | X | 1365.45.113 /red dot | 750 | Berlina 1488.07501 – 1488.1000 | 776 | |||||
1365.45.238 | X | 1365.45.113 / white dot | ||||||||
1365.45.257 | X | 750 101-1300 | ∙ Berlina ∙ t.i. | 15 mm | 776 | |||||
1365.45.258 | X | 750 101-1300 | ∙ Berlina ∙ t.i. ∙ Spider Veloce ∙ SS | 12 mm | 776 | |||||
101-1600 | ∙ Sprint ∙ Spider (including Veloce) ∙ SS | 1016 |
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Placement | Specifications | ||||||||
Part# | Top | Bottom | Corresponding Spring | Application | A | B | C | Thickness | Source |
1365.45.259 | X | 750 101-1300 | ∙ Berlina ∙ t.i. ∙ Spider ∙ SZ | 115 mm Footnot e 5 | 8 mm | 776 | ||||
101-1600 | Sprint | 1016 | ||||||||
1365.45.260 | X | 750 101-1300 | ∙ Berlina ∙ t.i. ∙ Sprint ∙ Sprint Veloce | 5 mm | 776 |
5115 mm based on all 101-1600 were 115 mm springs.
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750-101 Suspension Springs Front Rubber Pad Page 9
Placement | Specifications | |||||||||
Part# | Top | Bottom | Corresponding Spring | Application | A | B | C | D | Thickness | Source |
6 Front Rubber (& Steel) Pad
Manual 776 labels them “Bearing”
Manual 1016 labels the upper as “Sprint seat upper” and the lower as “Bearing lower”
1365.45.435 | Footnote 6 | ||||||||||
X | X | 1365.45.113 | Berlina up to 1488.10000 | 73 mm | 85 mm | N/A (no lip) | 114mm | 6mm | 776 | ||
X | 1365.45.232 | Berlina beginning with 1488.10001 | 776 | ||||||||
X | ? | All | 750 | All except Berlina | 776 | ||||||
X | All | 101- 130 0 | All except Berlina | 776 | |||||||
X | All | 101- 160 0 | All | 1016 | |||||||
6 Based on example found in 750-101 Transition Sprint Veloce 1493-E-06920, with 750 front suspension wishbones.
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Placement | Specifications | |||||||||
Part# | Top | Bottom | Corresponding Spring | Application | A | B | C | D | Thickness | Source |
1365.45.465 | Footnote 7 | ||||||||||
X | 1365.45.232 | Berlina beginning with 1488.10001 | 74 mm | 85 mm | 116 mm | 121 mm | 7 mm | 776 | |||
X | All | 750 | All except Berlina | 776 | |||||||
X | All | 101- 130 0 | All except Berlina | 776 | |||||||
X | All | 101- 160 0 | All | 1016 |
7Same as above
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Part# | Dots | Application | Car Dry Weight (kg) | Specifications | Source | |||||||
Coils Total Active | Wire | OD (mm) | Free Length (mm) | Test Load (kg) | Load Length (mm) | Flex Rating | Spring Rate (lb/inch2) |
Manual #637 (9/1958) “Giulietta Cars Shop Manual” had more rear spring alternatives for Spiders and Sprints but it was too confusing to include here. 7 Rear Springs
1365.48.035 | 2W | 750 | Berlina up to 1488.1000 | 915 | 471 | 237.65- 252.35 | 260 | 86.0 | 637 | ||||
1365.48.090 | 1Y | 750 | Berlina, t.i. (Footnote 8) | 915 920 | 463 | 237.65- 252.35 | 250 | 87.2 | 637 | ||||
101.00.25.510.00 | 2LtB | 101 | Berlina, t.i. (Footnote 9) | 915 920 | 479 | 255.1- 270.9 | 250 | 87.2 | 854 | ||||
1365.48.113 | Ambulance | 69.3 | |||||||||||
1365.48.141 | t.i. Guardia di Finanza | 87.2 | |||||||||||
101.11.25.510.00 | t.i. Autostrada del Sole | 69.9 | |||||||||||
101.22.25.510.01 | 101 | Station Wagon | 58.3 | ||||||||||
1365.48.013 | 1W | Early 750 | Sprint up to 1493.2800 | 880 | 105 | 461 | 203.7- 216.3 | 240 | 105.4 | 637 | |||
1365.48.092 | 1G | Mid 750 | Sprint 1493.02801- 1493.04500 | ?? | 425 | 189.15- 200.85 | 240 | 94.6 | 637 | ||||
1365.48.096 | 5Y | Late 750 101-1300 101-1600 | Sprint from 1493.04501 | 905 | 115 | 414 | 189.15- 200.85 | 230 | 94.1 | 637 854 | |||
101.12.25.510.00 | 5B | 101-1600 | Sprint | 905 | 115 | 414 | 189.15- 200.85 | 230 | 94.1 | 850 | |||
1365.48.081 | 4W | ? | Sprint Veloce | 895 | T: 10 3/4 A: 8 3/4 | 9.5
| 105 | 383 | 157.14- 176.13 | 240 | 94.6 | 59.17 | 637 Footnote10 |
1365.48.082 | 5W | ? | Sprint Veloce | 895 | 83.8 | ||||||||
1365.48.103 | 2Y | ? | Sprint Veloce | 405 | 190.1- 201.9 | 240 | 83.3 | 854 |
8(750) Berlina 1488.10001 – 1488.24930, t.i. up to 1468.17750
9(101) Berlina 1488.3001, t.i. from 1468.2001
10 Coil count, wire diameter, and spring diameter based on “New Old Stock” sample.
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Part# | Dots | Application | Car Dry Weight (kg) | Specifications | Source | |||||||
Coils Total Active | Wire | OD (mm) | Free Length (mm) | Test Load (kg) | Load Length (mm) | Flex Rating | Spring Rate (lb/inch2) |
1365.48.111 | 5G | 750 101 | Sprint Veloce | T: 9 1/2 A: 7 1/2 | 10.4 | 115 | 84.4 | 75.46 | Footnote11 | ||||
101-1600 | SS | 950 | 405 | 196-202 | 240 | 854 | |||||||
101.20.25.510.00 | not listed | 101-1300 | SS, SZ | 860, 770 | 393 | 165.87- 176.13 | 230 | 95.2 | 854 | ||||
101-1600 | SS w/ light body ?????? | ??? | |||||||||||
1365.48.024 | 3W | 750 | Spider (Footnote 12) | 860 | 105 | 436 | 156.7- 166.3 | 240 | 121.3 | 637 | |||
1365.48.104 | 4G | 105 | 105.4 | ||||||||||
1365.48.097 | 4Y | ? | Spider (Footnote 13) | 115 | 453 | 157.14- 168.86 | 240 | 119.5 | |||||
1365.48.106 | 3G | 115 | 103.6 | ||||||||||
101.03.25.510.00 | 1LtB | 101-1300 | Spider from 1495.08001 | 860 | 115 | 410 | 185.25- 196.75 | 230 | 94.2 | 854 | |||
101-1600 | 885 | ||||||||||||
1365.48.093 | 2G | ? 750 | Spider Veloce | 865 | 387 | 150.35- 159.65 | 240 | 94.6 | 637 850 | ||||
1365.48.099 | 3Y | ? 101-/1300 | Spider Veloce | 410 | 185.25- 196.75 | 230 | 94.2 | 854 | |||||
(Footnote 14) | 1LtB w/ cross | 101-1600 | Spider Veloce | 885 | 410 | 185.25- 196.75 | 230 |
11 Based on example found in 750-101 Transition Sprint Veloce 1493-E-06920, with 750 front suspension wishbones and still having two visible green dots. 12 European Spider 1495.03251 – 1495.08000, 104.5 mm (rounded to 105) OD; can replace 1365.48.024 with 1365.48.104 must substitute stabilizer bar 1365.45.230 and rubber pad 1365.45.466
13 European Spider 115 mm OD – can replace 1365.48.097 with 1365.48.106 must substitute stabilizer bar 1365.45.230 and its rubber pad 1365.45.466 14 The parts manual does not list a number for Veloce, which should mean it is the same as the Normale 101.03.25.510.00. The Technical Specifications manual provides the same specifications for both, except for the paint color / symbol on the spring.
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Placement | Specifications | |||||||||
Part# | Top | Bottom | Corresponding Spring | Application | A | B | C | D | Thickness | Source |
“X” indicates that it was used on both right and left side of car.
“Left side only” in manual 776 means “Passenger side”.
8 Shock Cover / Spacer
Manual 776 calls it “Rubber Pad Upper”.
1365.48.402 | X | All 105 mm springs | 750 | All 105 mm springs | Footnote 15 | 776 | |||||
76 mm | 82 mm | 115 m | 124 mm | 8 mm | |||||||
1365.48.431 | X | All 115 mm springs | 750 101-1300 101-1600 | All 115 mm springs | 84 mm | 91 mm | 136 mm | 145 mm | 7.5 mm Footnote 16 | 776 | |
101.22.25.515.02 | X | 101-1300 | Station wagon | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | 776 |
15 Based on NOS example of 1365.48.402
16 Based on example found in 750-101 Transition Sprint Veloce 1493-E-06920
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Placement | Specifications | |||||||||
Part# | Top | Bottom | Corresponding Spring | Application | Version | A | B | C | Thickness | Source |
10 Rear Aluminum Spacers
There were two generations of rear aluminum spacers without a change to the part numbers; flat and grooved (see picture below). Theory of why this running change occurred: ∙ Originally spacers were only used on top of the rear springs, but eventually there was a need for spacers at the bottom of the spring. See 101-1300 SZ in chart. ∙ Since there was already a rubber pad at the bottom; one had to accommodate the other. That pad would not slip around the outside of the aluminum spacer. ∙ Alfa changed the inside diameter of the pad and added the groove to the aluminum spacer to allow the pad to sit inside. Part numbers were not changed in the manuals. ∙ The grooved spacer can be substitued for the non-grooved original of the same thickness, but the non-grooved version cannot be used at the bottom of a spring. | ||||||||||||
Not used | 750 101-1300 | Berlina t.i. | 776 | |||||||||
1365.32.084 | X | 750 | Spider up to 1495.01850 | 776 | ||||||||
1365.32.115 | Left side only | 750 | Sprint Veloce up to 1493.04448 | 776 | ||||||||
1365.48.094 | X | OD 95 mm (probably misprint of 105) | 750 | Spider Veloce | 776 |
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Placement | Specifications | |||||||||
Part# | Top | Bottom | Corresponding Spring | Application | Version | A | B | C | Thickness | Source |
1365.48.095 | X | OD 115 mm | ? | Spider Veloce | 776 | ||||||
1365.48.102 | Left side only | 750 | Sprint Veloce 1493.04449 to 1493.12000 | Footnote 17 | 776 | ||||||
#1 | 93 mm | 116 mm | 126 mm | 9.7 mm | |||||||
X | 750 | Sprint Spider | 776 | ||||||||
X | 101-1300 | Sprint Spider | Footnote 18 | 776 | |||||||
#2 | 126 mm | 118 mm | 93 mm | 10.3 mm | |||||||
X | 101-1300 | Spider Veloce from 14955.08001 | 776 | ||||||||
Footnote 19 | 1365.45.161 | 101-1300 | SS SZ | Probably #2 | 776 | ||||||
X | All 101-1600 | 101-1600 | Sprint Spider | 1016 | |||||||
X | Left side only | All 101-1600 | 101-1600 | SS | Probably #2 | 1016 |
17 Based on example found in 750-101 Transition Sprint Veloce 1493-E-06920
18Based on example probably from 101 Sprint Normale 1493.20716. For the thickness, the groove was ignored.
19 For the SS and SZ the 776 manual lists 2 on left and 1 on right. Two on the left, implies top and bottom of spring. Refer to opening statement in this section about the two versions of the aluminum spacer.
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Placement | Specifications | |||||||||
Part# | Top | Bottom | Corresponding Spring | Application | A | B | C | D | Thickness | Source |
11 Rear Rubber (& Steel) Pad
Manual 776 labels them “Bearing”, while manual 1016 labels them “Rubber Pad”.
1365.48.401 | X | All OD 105 mm | 750 101-1300 | All | 776 | ||||||
The following pad does not fit groove in Spacer “version #2” | |||||||||||
1365.48.424 | X | All OD 115 mm | 750 101-1300 | All | 80 mm | 94 mm | 116 mm | 120 mm | 6 mm | 776 Footnote20 | |
All | 101-1600 | ∙ Sprint ∙ Spider ∙ SS | 1016 | ||||||||
The following pad will fit into groove in Spacer “version #2”. —– It will not fit inside the shock cover/spacer | |||||||||||
?????? | ????? | ?????? | ?????? | ?????? | Unknown ∙ All from release of new pad? ∙ Any time spacer is required at bottom of spring? | 80 mm | 90 mm | 116 mm | 120 mm | 5.5 mm | Footnote21 |
20 Based on example found in 750-101 Transition Sprint Veloce 1493-E-06920
21 Based example, probably from 101 Sprint Normale 1493.201716 …. which indicates a probably running change without number change being recorded in parts manual
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